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Subject:  The Answers thread

27/12/2006 16:41 GMT

The thread where we give answers...


...scroll down for the answers to the first round of quote attributions...









...OK, far enough?




1.1 "Who was it said Earthmen never invite their ancestors round to dinner?"--seventh Doctor in Ghost Light, episode two

1.2 "These shoes! They fit perfectly!"--eighth Doctor in the telemovie (AKA The Enemy Within)

1.3 "Mother, mother, shall I die? Yes my darling, by and by..."--fourth Doctor to Harry in Robot episode one

1.4 "An apple a day keeps the... Ah, never mind."--fifth Doctor in Kinda episode one

1.5 "It is not common or garden flex, ...! This is Tardis machinery. It
needs a time-space link. Now plug them back!"--first Doctor to Ian, The Zarbi episode three

1.6 "Nevermore a butterfly."--sixth Doctor in The Two Doctors episode two

1.7 "...always take a banana to a party, .... Bananas are good."--tenth Doctor in Girl in the Fireplace

1.8 "That won't last; he's gay and she's an alien."--ninth Doctor to himself in Rose

1.9 "Logic, my dear, merely allow one to be wrong with accuracy."--second Doctor to Zoe, The Wheel in Space part three

1.10 "It's rather a pity, in a way. Now the universe is down to 699
wonders."--third Doctor to Sarah-Jane, Death to the Daleks part four

 
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Subject:  Re: The Answers thread

04/01/2007 14:33 GMT

And here's your second helping...






















2.1 "Nerva was designed to have a negative failure rate!"--Libri, The Ark in Space episode two

2.2 "Unlimited rice pudding!"--seventh Doctor, Remembrance of the Daleks episode four

2.3 "There is and there will always be 110 missing episodes."--Ian Levine in The Missing Years documentary

2.4 "Doctor Who is required. Bring him here."--Wotan, The War Machines episode one

2.5 "Friend? Friend? Bike?"--Pigbin Josh, The Claws of Axos episode one

2.6 "Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt!"--sixth Doctor, The Trial of a Timelord episode 13 (AKA The Ultimate Foe episode one)

2.7 "The memory cheats."--John Nathan-Turner

2.8 "Nuzzing in ze world can schtop me now!"--Professor Zaroff, The Underwater Menace episode three

2.9 "Don't shoot, Brigadier! You could hit my car!"--the third Doctor, Invasion of the Dinosaurs

2.10 "Star Wars is adolescent nonsense; Close Encounters is obscurantist drivel; Star Trek can turn your brains to purée of bat guano; and the greatest science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!"--Harlan Ellison

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Subject:  Re: The Answers thread

05/01/2007 00:30 GMT

I love the original series of Star Trek but I still appreciate the final quote. Harlan Ellison has always been a favourite of mine although I never knew he was a fan of Who.

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Subject:  Re: The Answers thread

05/01/2007 01:32 GMT

I think the context'll explain this better...as the story goes, Harlan had just seen Who for the first time (this may have been on PBS in the US, or if he'd been overseas). So being a provocative guy he stood up at the next convention he'd been invited to, and said this. And it was a Star Trek con. And he wrote the best regarded episode of the first series, City on the Edge of Forever. But he still didn't like the show.

 
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Subject:  Re: The Answers thread

06/01/2007 01:46 GMT

Depending on the date of the convention he attended it might have been a heartfelt response.The original series was something different but subsequent series` got worse and worse. Many later episodes had the taste of a fan writing themselves in a guest appearance. The biggest culprit being Captain Okonna (O`Connor? Irish descent, cheeky chappie, an eye for the ladies and yet such a loveable rogue?)
City on the edge of forever was the reverse; an obviously Sci-Fi concept adapted for the show as other standard stories were, such as Arena.
Even a cold war story was shamelessly adapted for the format but nonetheless the format was a breath of fresh air.

 
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Subject:  Re: The Answers thread

06/01/2007 04:05 GMT

The date associated with the quote's 1978--it couldn't be much earlier! Harlan didn't much like Star Trek from the outset; his script for City's been published with an even larger essay documenting why he hates Trek so much.
He seems to prefer the anthology shows he wrote for such as The Outer Limits (so do I), probably because he didn't have to take on anyone else's characters.

One example from his essay is that the original cause for the crew having to go back in time was a drug dealing crew member having fled there and upsetting history, this being rewritten to be caused by an accidental overdose. However, what Roddenberry said was that Harlan had written Scotty into this drug dealer role. Gene's probably the only person to get away with saying something like this without Harlan getting violent, mind you Roddenberry was an ex-cop...

 
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Subject:  Re: The Answers thread

07/01/2007 03:22 GMT

And the third batch of answers...













3.1 “Doctor Who. A frail old man lost in space and time. They give him this name because they don’t know who he is.” -- CE Webber, Sydney Newman and Donald Wilson, format document first written description of
the Doctor, dated April 1963, quoted in Doctor Who: The Handbook: The First Doctor

3.2 "December 11 1965 The 'Counter-Plot' episode of the epic 'The Daleks' Master Plan' is screened. A few days later producer John Wiles receives a phonecall from MGM's studios at Borehamwood, North London, where Stanley Kubrick's new film, 2001: A Space Odyssey, is in production. Having watched some of the previous week's episodes, the Visual Effects team, headed by Wally Weevers and Douglas Trumbull, are intrigued by the Doctor Who crew's achievements, both in the illusion of
weightlessness - as seen with the death of Katarina in episode four - and in matter transportation, demonstrated when the Doctor, Sara and Steven are projected to the planet Mira. Giving credit to director Douglas Camfield, Wiles explains that the space- travel scenes were accomplished by techniques involving the use of special transparencies
and video-effects generators, and that the weightless shots were done simply by aiming a camera vertically upwards at an actress suspended immediately above by a wire from the studio ceiling. Curiously enough,
when 2001 is eventually released in 1967, permutations of those same techniques, pioneered by Camfield in Doctor Who, are clearly in evidence." -- Peter Haining, The Key to Time

3.3 “Dr. Who’s giving away drugs! Look It’s Dr. Who, offering a set of six super acid trips!” -- “Fartside 2003”, bowdlerized cereal commercial, Chameleon Factor 78

3.4 “The natural extent of moral relativism is Sutekhs' ‘your evil is my good’ speech. According to popular university-think, I guess the Doctor should have invited Sutekh over for tea, and practice destroying some
life to experience his culture.” -- Trey Korte, post to The Jade Pagoda disucssion list [email post] Jan 18, 2002

3.5 “In Deadly Assassin the Time Lords seem to have forgotten the Doctor yet we’re led to believe it’s very rare for a Time Lord to leave Gallifrey. So they should remember him, particularly as in Three Doctors he saved Gallifrey (and the universe of course!) from destruction and Borusa said they needed heroes...Then there’s the more than usually daft title. Have you ever heard of an assassin that isn’t deadly?...The new rule for Doctor Who is that anything pre-Holmes needn’t exist, which can’t be good for a script editor. What must have happened was that at the end of ‘Hand of Fear’ the Doctor was knocked out and had a crazy mixed up nightmare about Gallifrey. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE MAGIC OF DOCTOR WHO?” -- Jan Vincent Rudzki, review of The Deadly Assassin in
Tardis, reprinted in Paul Cornell Licence Denied

3.6 "‘These zealots have offended against the laws of Rome and our Emperor,' the Doctor called out across the massed ranks of legionaries.
He waited briefly for the buzz of excitement to die down before continuing. 'The gods will surely punish them for their temerity, turning flames of righteous anger on those Jewish rebels.And I can promise you this- tomorrow, Masada will fall and the long siege will be over.' -- first Doctor , The Last Days in Short Trips

3.7 “Dr. Who: Chilling Science-fiction Series of exploits in a time machine: ABC-TV The National Television Service: Tuesdays at 7.30” -- First Australian print advertisement for Doctor Who, The West Australian January 1965, reprinted with permission in Chameleon Factor 78

3.8 “‘There it is!’ he snapped. ‘That’s the cause of the trouble!’ And he pointed to it with his shot gun...the nervous tension was infectious - causing the Doctor to jump in his turn, whereupon both barrels exploded. The first shot caught Curly Bill in the diaphragm, the second brought Frank McLowry drifting lead like to the street before them, in a shower of broken glass...” -- Donald Cotton, The Gunfighters [novel]

3.9 “If The Daleks’ Master Plan were released on video tomorrow, how would fandom deal with it?” -- Who?: Popularity and the Tyranny of the Mob [column] in SFSA 14, December 2003

3.10 “Reduce considerably shots of Polly being attacked by clawed creature, also reduce sound of her cries.” -- Australian Censor (signed), first of November 1967, notes for classification of The Macra Terror part two, held by the Australian Archive as C058/3/TV67/3878

 

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