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Subject:  Target Dr Who novels

19/08/2006 17:41 GMT

Hi there!



I deperately want all the Target Dr Who novels right up to the end of the Colin Baker era of Dr Who.



If anyone has second hand copies that they'd like to sell - please, please let me know.



ALSO........any Dr Who books (non fiction ones such as David Banks' "The Cybermen" or "Doctor Who: The Sixties", "The Seventies" or "The Eighties" .....or books like "Twenty Five Glorious Years", etc.) - please let me know if you'd like to sell them...........

I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO EXAPND MY COLLECTION!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

20/08/2006 00:06 GMT

I have a box full of target novels, there going so cheap I am practically giving them away heheheh



(Note - I have no idea what condition they are in, I haven't looked at them for at least 10 years)

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

20/08/2006 09:58 GMT

I loved those Target books, One of my fave memories is of me reading the classic Dr Who books as a little tacker.



I found the cover arts for the 70s ones to be very well detailed and captured the tone of the story well.



They should publish a coffee table book with the cover art I reckon!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

20/08/2006 10:24 GMT

That's a pretty good return--ask at three, get a positive response at nine!

We occasionally get hopeful inquires about the club buying collections, one in particular was the son's books while he was out of the country. The answer is "No, the club isn't buying books, but feel free to bring them to a meeting...". We never seem to get the huxters actually show up!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

23/08/2006 05:08 GMT

I found a list of Target Novels if anyone is interested.



The Abominable Snowmen Terrance Dicks   

The Android Invasion Terrance Dicks   

The Androids of Tara Terrance Dicks   

The Ark in Space Ian Marter   

The Armageddon Factor Terrance Dicks   

The Auton Invasion Terrance Dicks   

The Brain of Morbius Terrance Dicks   

Carnival of Monsters Terrance Dicks   

The Cave Monsters Malcolm Hulke 

The Claws of Axos Terrance Dicks   

The Creature from the Pit David Fisher 

The Crusaders David Whitaker   

The Curse of Peladon Brian Hayles   

The Cybermen Gerry Davis   

The Dæmons Barry Letts   

The Daleks David Whitaker   

The Dalek Invasion of Earth Terrance Dicks 

Day of the Daleks Terrance Dicks   

The Deadly Assassin Terrance Dicks   

Death to The Daleks Terrance Dicks   

Destiny of the Daleks Terrance Dicks   

The Dinosaur Invasion Malcolm Hulke   

The Doomsday Weapon Malcolm Hulke   

The Enemy of the World Ian Marter   

The Face of Evil Terrance Dicks   

Full Circle Andrew Smith   

Genesis of the Daleks Terrance Dicks   

The Giant Robot Terrance Dicks   

The Green Death Malcolm Hulke   

The Hand of Fear Terrance Dicks   

The Horns of Nimon Terrance Dicks   

Horror of Fang Rock Terrance Dicks   

The Ice Warriors Brian Hayles   

Image of the Fendahl Terrance Dicks   

The Invasion of Time Terrance Dicks   

The Invisible Enemy Terrance Dicks   

The Keeper of Traken Terrance Dicks   

The Keys of Marinus Philip Hinchcliffe   

The Leisure Hive David Fisher   

The Loch Ness Monster Terrance Dicks   

Logopolis Christopher H. Bidmead   

The Masque of Mandragora Philip Hinchcliffe   

The Monster of Peladon Terrance Dicks   

The Mutants Terrance Dicks   

Nightmare of Eden Terrance Dicks   

Planet of the Daleks Terrance Dicks   

Planet of Evil Terrance Dicks   

The Planet of the Spiders Terrance Dicks   

The Power of Kroll Terrance Dicks   

Pyramids of Mars Terrance Dicks   

Revenge of the Cybermen Terrance Dicks   

The Ribos Operation Ian Marter   

The Robots of Death Ian Marter   

The Sea Devils Malcolm Hulke   

The Seeds of Doom Philip Hinchcliffe   

The Sontaran Experiment Ian Marter   

The Space War Malcolm Hulke   

State of Decay Terrance Dicks   

The Stones of Blood Terrance Dicks   

The Sunmakers Terrance Dicks   

The Talons of Weng Chiang Terrance Dicks   

The Tenth Planet Gerry Davis   

Terror of the Autons Terrance Dicks   

The Three Doctors Terrance Dicks   

The Time Warrior Terrance Dicks   

The Tomb of the Cybermen Gerry Davis   

Underworld Terrance Dicks   

An Unearthly Child Terrance Dicks   

The Visitation Eric Saward   

The War Games Malcolm Hulke   

Warriors' Gate John Lydecker   

The Web of Fear Terrance Dicks   

The Zarbi Bill Strutton   

Time Flight Peter Grimwade   

Meglos Terrance Dicks   

Castrovalva Christopher H. Bidmead   

Four to Doomsday Terrance Dicks   

Earthshock Ian Marter   

Terminus John Lydecker   

Arc of Infinity Terrance Dicks   

The Five Doctors Terrance Dicks   

Mawdryn Undead Peter Grimwade   

Snakedance Terrance Dicks   

Kinda Terrance Dicks   

Enlightenment Barbara Clegg   

The Dominators Ian Marter   

Warriors of the Deep Terrance Dicks   

The Aztecs John Lucarotti   

Inferno Terrance Dicks   

The Highlanders Gerry Davis   

Frontios Christopher H. Bidmead   

The Caves of Androzani Terrance Dicks   

Planet of Fire Peter Grimwade   

Marco Polo John Lucarotti   

The Awakening Eric Pringle   

The Mind of Evil Terrance Dicks   

The Myth Makers Donald Cotton   

The Invasion Ian Marter   

The Krotons Terrance Dicks   

The Two Doctors Robert Holmes   

The Gunfighters Donald Cotton   

The Time Monster Terrance Dicks   

The Twin Dilemma Eric Saward   

Galaxy Four William Emms   

Timelash Glen McCoy   

Vengeance on Varos Philip Martin   

The Mark of the Rani Pip and Jane Baker   

The King's Demons Terence Dudley   

The Savages Ian Stuart Black   

Fury From The Deep Victor Pemberton   

The Celestial Toymaker Gerry Davis and Allison Bingeman   

The Seeds of Death Terrance Dicks   

Black Orchid Terence Dudley   

The Ark Paul Erickson   

The Mind Robber Peter Ling   

The Faceless Ones Terrance Dicks   

The Space Museum Glyn Jones   

The Sensorites Nigel Robinson   

The Reign of Terror Ian Marter

The Romans Donald Cotton

The Ambassadors of Death Terrance Dicks

The Massacre John Lucarotti

The Macra Terror Ian Stuart Black

The Rescue Ian Marter

Terror of the Vervoids Pip and Jane Baker

The Time Meddler Nigel Robinson

The Mysterious Planet Terrance Dicks

Time and the Rani Pip and Jane Baker

The Underwater Menace Nigel Robinson

The Wheel in Space Terrance Dicks   

The Ultimate Foe Pip and Jane Baker   

The Edge of Destruction Nigel Robinson   

The Smugglers Terrance Dicks   

Paradise Towers Stephen Wyatt   

Delta and the Bannermen Malcolm Kohll   

The War Machines Ian Stuart Black   

Dragonfire Ian Briggs   

Attack of the Cybermen Eric Saward   

Mindwarp Philip Martin   

The Chase John Peel   

Mission to The Unknown John Peel   

The Mutation of Time John Peel   

Silver Nemesis Kevin Clarke     

The Greatest Show in the Galaxy Stephen Wyatt   

Planet of Giants Terrance Dicks   

The Happiness Patrol Graeme Curry   

The Space Pirates Terrance Dicks   

Remembrance of the Daleks Ben Aaronovitch   

Ghost Light Marc Platt   

Survival Rona Munro   

The Curse of Fenric Ian Briggs   

Battlefield Marc Platt   

The Pescatons Victor Pemberton   

The Power of the Daleks John Peel   

The Evil of the Daleks John Peel   

The Paradise of Death Barry Letts   

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

23/08/2006 05:11 GMT

How many of the Missing Episodes are there I Have 2 Mission to Magnus and the other I can not remeber at this time.



Also What where the TV Title for the pescatons. Which Cyberman storie is Doctor Who and the Cyberman Target Novel?



 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

23/08/2006 07:57 GMT

Three--Mission to Magnus, The Nightmare Fair and The Ultimate Evil. The Pescatons was a one off record. Doctor Who and the Cybermen is The Moonbase.

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

24/08/2006 03:31 GMT

why is there no novelisations of The Pirate Planet, The City Of Death and the last to Daleks stories?



 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

24/08/2006 05:43 GMT

I know it weird to answer your own questions, but It just came to me didnt Douglas Adams write Pirate planet and City of Death. this could be the reason.



And didnt they have trouble with the writer of the Colin Baker Dalek story, that is why they could not show it on the Colin Baker years Video.



Did they ever do A McCoy Years Video?

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

24/08/2006 05:48 GMT

That's Revelation and Resurrection of the Daleks (not Rememberance), The Pirate Planet, City of Death and Shada. All down to disputes with the authors; Eric Saward in the Dalek stories and Douglas Adams in the other ones. The New Zealand club's done unofficial novelisations. When Adams died it was announced that Gareth Roberts would be writing at least one of the novels, we're still waiting.

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

08/09/2006 13:16 GMT

why change the title of some of the novels from the title of the episode to something else.



eg coloney in spave to doomsday weapon or worse the crusades to the crusaders.

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

08/09/2006 15:03 GMT

Mmm, that's a good question--some of the changes are pretty obvious, such as Doctor Who and the Cybermen for The Moonbase. This was the 14th Target (actually the 11th, the first three were Frederick Muller) and the first Cyber-novelisation, looks like a case of branding--a book on Cybermen would be expected to sell better than a book on moonbases! Target started churning their novelisations out in the mid-Seventies, and the title changes suggest both marketability and more description--Doctor Who and the Auton Invasion for Spearhead From Space, Doctor Who and the Space War for Frontier in Space, and Doctor Who and the Cave Monsters for Doctor Who and the Silurians. By the late Seventies they were simply adding "Doctor Who and the..." to the television titles, and in the early Eighties they simply used the television ones or episode titles for stories preceeding collective titles, albeit under the Who logo of the day.



DWM ran a nice history of Target, I'd give you the citations but Matthew's got me magazines! I recommend the "On Target" site, but the URLs too long to post!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

09/09/2006 03:38 GMT

Having now accumulated some of the novels into my collection , I have found that they really are a damn good read!

(I once thought they were lame!)

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

09/09/2006 11:31 GMT

I think they should revive the target novels to include the new series.

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

09/09/2006 13:58 GMT

I have mixed feelings about them. The Dicks ones are pretty much by the numbers--I once saw a competition online to work out his most overused phrase, and "a shck of white hair" won.



However The Deadly Assassin was a pretty shockingly good experience; they wouldn't play the episodes but you could buy the book at your local newsagent!



I am very pleased at the editorial policy in the late '80s which saw the original authors given refusal over the novelisations, and these are the ones I read again and again.



And yes, I'm talking about Donald Cotton!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

10/09/2006 00:37 GMT

The one good thing about the Target novels is that you can read the missing episodes.

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

10/09/2006 07:24 GMT

You're damn right there, Jestear!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

10/09/2006 13:36 GMT

Hey, dudes!



I just wanted to add that I think the Target Dr Who novels rock (well, most of them!)



Dicks' ain't that bad a writer - though he does have a panchant to always describe the TARDIS at the start of each story and then go on about Pertwee's shock of white hair, or Tom Baker's shock of brown hair.



The prologue to The Time Warrior (by Dicks) is excellent - a damn good read!

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

12/09/2006 01:21 GMT

I don't have any great objections to Dicks; he's one of the most prolific authors in this language. You get The Brain of Marbuis (in normal and junior editions!) by Dicks; all well and fine. But then you get The Claws of Axos by Dicks--well he was the script editor, and presumably Baker and Martin were off writing more exciting television adventures. But The Face of Evil? Terror of the Zygons? Johnny Byrne is a poet; how does Dicks' "shock of white hair"-isms add to The Keeper of Traken? I don't know what the story is with all the commissions; there may be  good reasons why all but a handfull of authors let someone else adapt their scripts. Take your example of The Time Warrior prologue--this isn't Terrance Dicks but the entirety of Robert Holmes' attempt to write the novelisation himself! Until his final illness made him unreliable Holmes was too busy with his next television commission; The Two Doctors only happened because book deadlines are more forgiving. But to continue with this, since Dicks had already published The Time Warrior what chance would there have been that Holmes would have then gone on to adapt this? And the same goes for all the other examples; by the time Nigel Robinson was giving original authors the opportunity to rework their own scripts there just wasn't that many books left to adapt.



Some don't like John Peel where he was Terry Nation's writer of choice. Fair enough; I think using a different writer for The Paradise of Death could have but helped matters.

 
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Subject:  Re: Target Dr Who novels

12/09/2006 08:31 GMT

So did Terrance Dicks actually write the prologue to The Time Warrior? Or was that Robert Holmes???



By the way, I can understand why you are so enraged about Dicks almost monoploisation over the novels - perhaps he had some special deal/contract with W. H. Allen & Co.???

 

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