Sorry!



Mmm. Now keeping in mind the nature of canon, and the occasional -- and occasionally sickeningly enthusiastic -- embracing of it by the show...



It wasn't finished, and wasn't transmitted, but has been released in a part-narrated form on video. It's complicated by the fact it was revisited as a webcast with Richard E Grant, who was BBC official at the time, but has been regulated to the limbo of heresy. And two scenes from it were used in The Five Doctors.



It's not on its own. Apart from abandoned scripts and scenes (Kamelion being rude with a roundal in The Awakening), a whole black and white episode was shot, shelved and is believed to no longer exist. Yep.



Back to Shada. I've seen it referred to in one author's line of novels, and nothing else. I suppose it's thus got a higher claim than the webcast or The Five Doctors scenes. So, after all that qualification I'd say -- yes.

Martin (Adelaide's answe to Ian Levene) said on the 22/4/06:



"a whole black and white episode was shot, shelved and is believed to no longer exist."



And I ask, what is this??????

What was shot????

Who was the Doctor???

Is it available????

Thanks Martin.



The B & W episode sounds intriguiging, care to satisfy Jimmy and mines' curiosity?

Actually, I sat down at the last meeting with him, watched The Beginning and had a yak about this.



It was to be part four of Planet of the Giants, the last episode recorded in the first production block. They handed the director's chair over to a producton assistant named Douglas Camfield. When Sydney Newman saw the story he ordered the final two episodes be edited down to one. So Crisis and The Urge to Live became Crisis, and intrepid telephone operator Hilda and her policeman husband Bert were left on the cutting room floor for the most part.



The imbalance in produced episodes led to an extra episode being filmed at the end of the second production block, after the regulars had been released for their holidays. Thus--Mission to the Unknown!

Very interesting info there Martin - you learn something new everyday!



I've always wondered.....the original season 23 was comprised of 4 stories, and I know the scripts for those stories were released in book form.



What I want to know is.....have they ever been made into radio shows? 



Im not a fan of audio adventures per se, but it would be at least interesting to listen to what the original stories for Season 23 were like.



Has this been done?  If not, then they should.

Not that I know of! The Doctor Who radio plays are Exploration Earth (educational) and Slipback, The Paradise of Death and The Ghosts of N-Space (dramatic), although it's debatable that you can now add the webcasts to this list.



There was also Whatever Happened to Susan Foreman? which featured Jane Asher in the title role!



There was a plan to record a Doctor Who radio serial in the '60s, and their preferred actor was Peter Cushing! Cushing dosn't seem to have thought much of the films, they're not mentioned at all in his autobiography.



The three scripts which were novelised (as the Lost Episodes) are Mission to Magnus, The Nightmare Fair and The Ultimate Evil.

Of those 3 - the Nightmare Fair sounded the most interesting, and I wish that had been made.  But  knowing the state of the JNT Dr Who stories at that point, it may have been a dog's breakfast, who knows?



I think they never should have attempted the Trial season and just went ahead with the stories as originally planned.



They had to hook new viewers to the show at that point, and doing a season which drew heavily on the mythology was a major mistake.  In my opinion of course!!!!!

the trial was a good ideal but they need a story to go with it.

There was a story to go with it - it was just - confused!



(and very con - fu - sing! )

Between those, Yellow Fever (and the little known about)  In The Hollow of Time and The Children of January, it sounds like the less successful younger sibling of season 22. Not that Grade and JNT did us a favour.

Considering how Dr Who was during that era, its more than likely that those stories would have been badly produced.



JNT should have left when Davison left, and handed over to someone else.



To be producer of the same show for nearly 10 years was simply too much.

Badly produced, overlit and full of things bleeding green. And violent. But I still want to see them!

I agree there Martin! 



Even had the stories been rubbish, it was still Dr Who.



I could even put up with repeated viewings of Timelash - but only just!!!!

Season 22 was a shocker......but it does have sentimentasl value if you can watch it and remember when you were a kid watching it.



But that's all it has for me - sentimental value. I look at it now and think - 'Why did I like that so much?!?'

It dosn't even have sentimental value for me--I wasn't a kid when it was broadcast on ABC!

I was 11 when that was on, and I remember then not liking it much.



The only story from that season that remained with me was Mark of the Rani.  Why I have no idea.



The only stories that made any sense and were written well was Revelation of the Daleks, and Vengeance on Varos.



The rest of them - forget it!

I've just been reminded of annother whole two (2) season one episodes; filmed, finished, junked...

Hint: it was the In the Beginning box set which reminded me about them...!

Saw the trailer for Run away bride. Seeing the Tardis chasing a London Taxi down a motorway at high speed looks fantastic. Can not wait for the christmas special. javascript:replaceText(' ', document.editor.text)

We must be patient. 

I can't wait to see The Runaway Bride too!