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Time for second vote on "SFSA" [forum post gone astray]
21/04/2003 18:47 GMT

Posted by Martin

The South Australian Doctor Who Fan Club inc. has been popularly known as "SFSA" for two and a half years. At the time of this name change, a commitment to a second vote on this was undertaken. I will be moving at the forthcoming AGM (June 21) "That we ratify the agreement to use SFSA to refer to the SADWFC inc.". A failure of this vote will see us revert to SADWFC inc., success will see us continue to be popularly known as "SFSA", with all official recognition being as SADWFC inc.

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OK, the forum isn't working, but we can discuss this here in news. "Science Fiction" is as close to the topic as the pull down list allows.
Martin

Martin  

date: 21/04/2003 18:50 GMT
Hello from afar, Pro: In theory SFSA gets us more of a potential membership base. Has this proved to be the case ? Is SFSA's membership on the rise, fall or staying the same ? Con: We lose the specific interest of DrWho. Is this important ? If we do revert back to SADWFC what is the future for the club given the original reasons for change are still valid: falling membership of a TV show no-longer in production, so relegated to special interest.
idavid

idavid WWW 

date: 27/04/2003 01:57 GMT
> Hello from afar, Hello from SA.... > Pro: In theory SFSA gets us more of a potential membership base. Has > this proved to be the case ? Is SFSA's membership on the rise, fall or > staying the same ? You have, as always, hit the nub of the case. Which might be painful. I'm sorry, and wish I could do better, but with current records the best estimate is ''same''. There are 41 listings, some reciprocal, some life, and quite a few "renewal". As the membership numbers were the primary (sole presented) reason for the re-badging, the answer to this question should in theory be the definitive argument for or against. > Con: We lose the specific interest of DrWho. Is this important? > If we do revert back to SADWFC what is the future for the club > given the original reasons for change are still valid: falling > membership of a TV show no-longer in production, so relegated > to special interest. The quantifiable Who club interest for the last two and a half years-- ~Talk ~Book sales ~Special orders ~CD lends ~Tape lends ~Book lends ~Magazine lends ~Reconstruction lends ~Collection sales ~Reciprocal membership (with 'zine swaps), Dr Who clubs ~November 40th anniversary meeting planned Viewing Dimensions in Time Viewing Resistance is Useless Phone hook up with guest of honour??? ~Curse of Fenric advertised in WoL #72, for October 2001 meeting ~Doctor Who information columns in bi-monthly Wall of Lies Who News, front cover Who novel covers Who releases, single or double column depending on space Discounts: 10% off Who (exclusive) at--Known Space Books, Adelaide Comics Centre, Dymocks ~Doctor Who columns in bi-monthly SFSA magazine Who? the regular Doctor Who column ~Chameleon Factor #77, August 2002; 36 pages Who specific ~Jethryk #6, May 2001?; ? pages, Who specific As the largest minority of club activities is Who, the re-badging both takes away the curse any potential member might have hanging over them regarding The Show, but it also weakens our sense of identity.
Martin

Martin  

date: 30/04/2003 21:23 GMT
Some additions to Martin's list of the club's Doctor Who-related activities since the name change: Wall Of Lies Meeting video announcements: #67 - The Five Doctors DVD for January 2001 meeting #68 - The Goodies ep with Patrick Troughton in it for February 2001 meeting and DW listed as part of "The Usual Suspects" for March 2001 meeting #69 - Curse of Fenric advertised for May 2001 meeting #70 - Hitch-Hiker's Guide for June 2001, and lots of Douglas Adams memorial stuff. #72 - Curse of Fenric again for October 2001 (our only repeat video?) #80 - Time travel theme for January 2003, featuring Doctor Who. This indicates a fairly sudden drop in Doctor Who content at meetings after a while, despite the "two clubs in one" claims. It is also notable that there has been no corresponding rise in attendance in the months since that decline. Suggesting that whatever "General SF" audience of potential new members there was to begin with has already been tapped out. Notice also that the May meeting's Babylon 5 theme with a new telemovie being screened and the series just starting to be released in lovely big DVD box sets (so the best conditions for a "revival" there's ever going to be) drew the regular attendees alone. Compare to the screenings of new Babylon 5 material back when we were "SA Doctor Who Fan Club Inc." which drew upwards of 30-odd people. Which would tend to indicate that the "Doctor Who" name isn't what stops people turning up to meetings. Also for Martin's list: Jethryk 5 - Volume 1 32 pages, Volume 2 36 pages. Every one of them chock full of Doctor Who content, namely the entries and results of the second Doctor Who short story competition. It is interesting to note - for people who enjoy comparing things - that the short story competition in Issue 2 of the SFSA magazine received only two entries and an editorial lament that "it is a shame no-one entered the competition". Which suggests that either "General SF" fans aren't as enthusiastic and creative as Doctor Who fans or they are far less easily bribed to contribute.
JamesM

JamesM  

date: 26/05/2003 15:30 GMT
James, Sorry I got the Jethryk details wrong. This does demonstrate that we have gone from being an up-front Who club to one whose primary focus is Who (but we just don't admit this). I have no end of trouble with the authorities and fan update sites, as they all want to say we were the SADWFC (we still are), or that we are ''Science Fiction South Australia'' (the vote was on ''SFSA''). We have an identity all shiny and functional, can anyone bring anything to this that demonstrates how not using it has been any benefit?
Martin

Martin  

date: 26/05/2003 20:00 GMT
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